Episode 6

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12th May 2025

BONUS: Parenting Roadmap - Natalie Interview

In this Bonus episode, hear a sneak peak into the Parenting Roadmap companion private podcast.

The Parenting Roadmap report and podcast are available for a limited time. The Roadmap and private podcast are all about helping you understand how you and your kid are wired, and how human design can bring more confidence and connection in your parenting. 

Download your Parenting Roadmap as part of the Chaos Contained Bundle for Moms

Website: ericavoell.com

Transcript
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Welcome to the Parenting

Roadmap Private Podcast.

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I'm Erica Voell, a confidence

and wellbeing coach, and a

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certified human design guide.

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Okay.

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These short supportive episodes are

here to help you understand how you

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and your kid are wired, and how human

design can bring more confidence

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and connection into your parenting.

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Today's episode's a little

different because you're not

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going to just hear from me.

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You're going to hear from one of

my clients who used human design to

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understand her family in a whole new

way, and we talk about how learning

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her own design and the designs of her

partner and kids shifted everything

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from communication to expectations

to how she supports her people.

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I you will love hearing her story

and how things shifted in her family

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and for herself in our work together.

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Welcome Natalie to the

Parenting Roadmap podcast.

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Thanks, Erica.

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I'm super excited to be here.

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So.

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So before you learned human design,

what was parenting and family

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life like for you day to day?

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Well, we are a family that's

together all the time.

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We are a ranching family.

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We all work our, uh, business together.

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I homeschool my kids.

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So we spend every day, almost

every moment together kind

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of learning how to cooperate.

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And before I learned about human design.

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I just thought like the parenting

struggles that I was having were just

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communication gaps that happened, you

know, as my boys were getting older

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and, we of course had our conflicts.

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I'm a very busy person.

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I like to just get stuff done and I have a

youngest that we would call the resistor.

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Um, because I felt like it was always

a big ordeal to get him to do the

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things that we needed to do in the

timeframe that we needed to do them.

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So that was always a little bit of

a rib in our family where we had

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expectations and they weren't always

being able to be met by everybody.

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So I know that there were a big

few, there were a few big aha

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moments in our work together.

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So what stands out for you

in, during our sessions?

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I think the biggest thing was.

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For me, identifying who I was as a

generator and then learning about my

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kids and my partner, two of which

are projectors and just learning that

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we don't operate in the same way.

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Like I am a hundred percent on the

go all day long and I have two humans

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in my house that need their rest

and they need to be like invited.

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And especially with my youngest, the

resistor, I realized that he wasn't just.

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Not doing the things that I wanted him

to do, and I wanted them, wanted him to

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do them out of rebellion or disrespect.

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It was that he wasn't getting enough

downtime in his day and that I

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really needed to ask him to come and

participate in his own unique way

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to be helpful, not just like this

is the chore that we have to do.

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So once I learned who we

all were in a different way.

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I was able to respectfully like

meet each person where they were.

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And it has exponentially lightened

like the stress load and the

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communication barriers that we had.

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, I do feel like our house is

just a lot more peaceful now

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than it had been in the past.

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Oh, I love that.

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So can you share an example of how

knowing your kid or your partner's

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human design changed how you

interact or communicate with them?

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Yeah, so I'm, I mean, I

think the biggest win that.

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I've had through, this is my youngest,

so I'm gonna speak to my projector

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child,, because my older son is

a manifesting generator, so he is

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able to run at the speed that I am.

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He's also able to multitask a

lot better than I can, which is

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always very confusing for me.

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I could never understand how he

could be eating his cereal, doing

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his schoolwork with an open book

next to him that he was also reading

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while holding conversation with me.

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And be able to absorb any of it.

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But I've learned that

that's just how he operates.

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, but my youngest, the conversation

has changed a lot because instead of

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me being like, we have to go clean

the barn, that's what we have to do.

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And it's the next thing on our list.

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I'll say, youngest, you are really

good at taking really good care

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of Pete, our horse, and I know

that he wants to see you today.

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Can you come down and be in charge of.

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Getting peed in and getting

him brushed and making sure

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he settled in for the night.

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And like him having that specific task

that is for him only because he's really

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good at it, makes him feel like he's not

just maybe a part of like the operation,

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but he is an individual that is doing

his part to keep everything running.

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And also I noticed that.

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He and my husband both have moments

where they just zone out and

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completely disappear from the world,

and it's almost like they pull

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their invisibility cloak over them.

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And before that used to really frustrate

me because I'd be like, stop ignoring me.

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I know that you hear my voice,

I'm trying to talk to you.

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And now I look, can look at him and

say, oh, you are just like getting

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your little rest in and that's gonna

help you be able to do the next

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good thing that you're gonna do.

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And so I've stopped taking offense to

the midday naps or like the really long

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reads where nobody's listening to me and

I've been able to recognize them as part

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of what they need to do similarly to

like why I have to get on the couch at

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the end of the night when the kitchen's

done because I'm just exhausted.

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And that's like my end of the day treat.

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Oh, this is just makes my heart flutter.

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So what shifted for you when you

started working with your design?

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Oh man, so much.

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I think that's been the biggest

eyeopener for me is that I'm a big

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ideas person and I've always just

been like eternally optimistic.

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Well, I shouldn't say always.

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I was born eternally optimistic, and

then I went through a big long phase

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of people telling me that I couldn't be

that person and that I couldn't believe

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in like a greater outcome or, you know,

even like my faith and my connection with

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Mother Nature and the universe and all

of those things being intertwined was

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so like too whimsical and my optimism

was naivety and all of those things.

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And after working with you and

like learning that that is.

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Exactly who I am.

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Mm-hmm.

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Gives me so much authority to

just continue to spread like

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that positivity and light.

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Not because I'm naive or hope that

that's the way things are gonna

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turn out, but that's just my role.

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Mm-hmm.

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In like the human race here.

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And that has brought so much joy because

learning to trust my gut and like knowing

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that, when I have that feeling that comes

in, that I can trust it and trust myself,

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and that when I feel the resistance of

somebody asking me to do something, or

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even me asking me to do something that I

just don't want to do, I can trust myself.

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And I just feel so much more

centered and balanced in knowing

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that like I'm on the right path,

even when it's completely different

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than anything I had ever expected.

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It's definitely the way that

I'm supposed to be walking.

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And that's been, that gives

me all the heart flutters.

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Just a note for listeners, we are on

Natalie's farm and you might hear,

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her dog in the background who has

a very, it's snoring very loudly,

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so we're, we're really in it today.

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So was there anything about the process

working together that surprised you or

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felt different than what you expected?

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Um, I wasn't expecting to feel so

emotional about really learning

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the ins and outs of like the

intricacies of human design.

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'cause when I first heard about you

on another podcast, I immediately

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went and like, took my test and I

looked at the things and I was like,

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oh, this all makes total sense.

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And I felt pretty content

with that information.

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But then when you and I started working

together and you know, you took me into

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a deep dive on what everything really

meant and still things I'm trying to

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understand, but the channels and all of

that, um, it just makes a lot more sense

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to me now when I interact with people.

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I feel like certain connections with

certain people or even this season of my

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life, like how you explained that I'm, you

know, like in an education and learning

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season, that now every time those things

appear, I'm like, oh, that's because

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this is exactly where I'm supposed to be.

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So I wasn't expecting quite as much

alignment as I'm experiencing now.

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I also wasn't expecting to feel so

emotional about it, like just, but knowing

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that I knew who I was when I was younger.

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And now like allowing that

full self to be here today.

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That has been,, definitely its own

little healing journey in itself.

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It's, it's can be an intense process.

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Yes, it has been.

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Yeah.

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But a good one.

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Yeah.

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So what made human design

really click for you once we

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started digging into your chart?

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I think when we brought in,

because I'm a all in learner, so

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you were talking, I was learning.

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I also asked a million questions

and I think when we brought in the

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family component and I was able to

not only use what I know for myself

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and how I operate and how that

can create some resistance with my

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people, , but then just kind of blending

everything that I've learned from you.

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And allowing myself to be

just a much better mother.

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I'm just so content now with being

able to communicate with my kids and my

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husband, and that has just brought so

much joy because I just always thought,

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well, this kid is just like this.

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Mm-hmm.

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And this is who he is.

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And I was stubborn growing up

and maybe he's just stubborn too.

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And I've taken, you know, the

negative connotations out of the.

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Communication barriers

that we were having.

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And I've started honoring who my kids are

as individuals and through their design.

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And it's just been so much more playful.

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'cause I'm like, oh, this is just you

doing your octopus thing where you can

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do 87,000 things at once and I can't.

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And that's okay and good for you.

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Can you also do the dishes

with one of your hands?

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You know, it just has made it, um, a

lot more playful to be a family again.

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Mm-hmm.

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Yeah.

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And you are really where I

started to see this come alive.

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Like I had done it within my own family,

but seeing it with another client and then

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you would say, oh, I, I recognized this.

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And we, when we would meet and I was

like, oh, there is something to this.

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That's what I really love.

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So what would you say to a parent

who's just getting started with

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human design and feeling a little

overwhelmed or unsure about this?

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Yeah, so I, as a, as part of my

design, I love to share everything

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that I'm learning as I'm learning it.

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And I've had a lot of experiences and

conversations with other moms that I

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homeschool with, especially because,

you know, we spend so much time with

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our kids that it is really important to

be able to like, communicate and work

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effectively, especially on sticky things

like kids that don't wanna do school.

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And so.

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When I first started learning about

this, we were talking about our own

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designs and who we were, and then I

started sharing my experiences with

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how, diving into the kids has really

allowed me to grow as a parent, which is

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really, you know, very important to us.

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And.

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I think for somebody who is just getting

started and feeling overwhelmed, I

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would say just start with the basics.

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Like just take the surface level

stuff and just try to apply

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one little nugget at a time.

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Because I tried to go into the channels

and the emotional authorities and

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all of that with the boys, and I was

like, no, I just need to recognize

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like these very, like the things, our

sticky points are the things that I need

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to be able to recognize and resolve.

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First and then after I can like

do that without any thought or

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any changes in my behavior, then

maybe we can go to the next level.

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I think knowing all of those things

about yourself are really important.

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And then, you know, once you can really

peel back the layers of your kids and

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your partner, probably your partner

and then your kids, then um, it starts

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to not feel quite so overwhelming.

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Well, thank you, Natalie.

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This has been such a pleasure and I know

so many parents will love hearing your

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story and hear themselves in your story.

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And just a quick reminder, the

parenting roadmap, PDF and the booking

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link for a free intro session are

in the show notes if you need them.

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Thank you for joining me

today, and thank you, Natalie.

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Thank you.

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About the Podcast

Unfolding: Audio Letters from the Middle of Becoming
Hosted by Erica Voell

What if midlife wasn’t a crisis… but an invitation?

Each week, Erica Voell, a Confidence & Well-Being coach and Human Design Guide shares honest audio letters from the middle of becoming—reflecting on self-trust, Human Design, motherhood, identity shifts, and the messy beauty of figuring it out as you go.

If you’ve ever felt stuck between who you’ve been and who you’re becoming… if you’re learning to say no to what drains you and yes to yourself… if you’re craving grounded, thoughtful reflection that doesn’t come with a 10-step plan—this is for you.

About your host

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Erica Voell


I use tools like Human Design, coaching, and
Reiki to help women in midlife say no to what
drains them—because they trust their decisions
and understand their unique strengths.

Together, we clear old patterns, and they learn
how they’re designed to make confident decisions
and start putting themselves first.