Episode 33

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8th Jun 2026

Voice as Frequency with Dr. Charlotte Webb

In this episode, Erica sits down with Dr. Charlotte Webb, legacy mentor, former tech equality activist, and the woman who went from co-founding Feminist Internet to channeling energy through crystals, and never looked back.

Charlotte shares what happened when she walked away from academia to heal burnout. She talks about the women she works with who have a whole spiritual life happening behind closed doors, and what it costs them to keep those two things separate.

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Dr Charlotte Webb is a legacy mentor helping women rewrite power and prosperity through a blend of spirit and strategy.

🔥 Formerly a tech equality activist with a PhD in internet art, she co-founded Feminist Internet and created the UK’s first Master’s in Internet Equality. After leaving academia to heal burnout, she now works with crystal healing, energy work, mentoring, and Human Design.

Charlotte's Substack: https://substack.com/@drcharlottewebb

Book a free magnetic voice activation call here: https://crystalkinhome.my.canva.site/magnetic-voice-call

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Transcript
Erica Voell:

Welcome to the Unfolding podcast, a space where we explore what

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it looks like to really trust yourself,

say no without guilt, and live your

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life like it actually belongs to you.

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I am Erica Voell, a decision mentor

and inner trust guide, and I help

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women in midlife untangle the life

patterns of shape-shifting and keeping

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everyone else happy, claim how they are

uniquely designed to make decisions,

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and understand their unique strengths.

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Using human design as a lens, we clear the

noise of conditioning so their no feels

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powerful and their yes feels true, and

they can move forward without self-doubt,

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guilt, and pressure to prove anything.

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On this show, we have honest conversations

about self-trust, boundaries, energy,

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and identity, especially for women

in midlife who are done living by the

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shoulds and second-guessing themselves.

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If you have taken every personality test,

followed the recommended path, and still

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can't shake that feeling that you've

been spending your whole life trying to

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fit in when all you really wanted was

to belong, you are in the right place.

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You will hear stories, insights,

and tools rooted in human

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design, coaching, and real life.

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Not to tell you what to do, like

another self-help book, but to really

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hear yourself so that you can stop

overthinking and start making decisions

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that feel grounded, clear, and true.

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Today's conversation just blew

me away, and I know it's one that

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you are really going to enjoy.

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I love all of the conversations I've

been having with these amazing women.

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Today's guest is Dr.

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Charlotte Webb.

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She is a Legacy Mentor helping women

rewrite power and prosperity through

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a blend of spirit and strategy.

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Formerly a tech equality activist with

a PhD in internet art, she co-founded

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Feminist Internet and created the UK's

first master's in internet equality.

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After leaving academia to heal burnout,

she now works with crystal healing,

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energy work, mentoring, and human design.

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Charlotte and I met through Julie

Ciardi's Ignite program, and

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you'll hear us reference Julie

a few times in the interview.

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What I find so fascinating about

Charlotte is that how she has taken human

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design, her work with crystal healing,

and has so beautifully intertwined

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it into her work with her clients.

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She talks a lot about voice,

which I just is so fascinating.

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Charlotte is also one of the women who

was featured in my Midlife Women and

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Their Voices article series on Substack

back in April, and I will link to both

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of the articles in the show notes.

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So let's get to this week's episode

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Welcome, Charlotte, to

the Unfolding podcast.

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I'm so glad to welcome you.

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Charlotte Webb: I'm so glad to be here.

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Thank you for having me.

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Erica Voell: So you have one of

the most interesting origin stories

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that I have read in a long time.

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You have a PhD in internet art, you

are the co-founder of the Feminist

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Internet, and you created the UK's

first master's in internet equality.

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That's like a whole career in itself.

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So tell us about that chapter

and, um, what were you trying

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to do in the world at that time?

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And then tell us about yourself.

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Charlotte Webb: Oh, thank you.

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Yeah, it was an absolutely wild ride.

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Um, Feminist Internet was a very creative

project that was totally unintentional.

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I had been working at the University of

the Arts London, um, and I was actually

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in a coffee shop with an amazing woman

who led the widening participation kind

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of wing of the university, and we were

talking about just increasingly noticing

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inequality in the tech sector, and I'd

been seeing that more and more because

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of what I was studying for my doctorate.

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And she invited me to put in a

proposal to, um, help students

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think about technology from, um,

a gender equality perspective.

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And I did that.

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We ran a 10-day experience, and basically

the people that came to that 10-day

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experience- didn't really want it to end

and I didn't want it to end, so we ended

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up on a basically about a seven-year

journey traveling the world teaching

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young people how to think about technology

from a, a gender equality perspective.

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And I never intended for that to be

my life or my career, but that's what

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happened and I'm, I'm so, so proud of

that chapter and it's also funny how

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extremely different my life is now and

the work that I'm doing, which seems so

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different on the outside, but then I'm

realizing that the through line is that

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kind of movement building, you know,

setting out a manifesto, setting out a, an

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intention to really do things differently.

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And all the things we talk about in our

world about the new era and new forms of

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leadership and challenging old paradigms

and systems, they are still there just in

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a very different costume this time around.

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Erica Voell: So tell us what

you do now that's so different.

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Charlotte Webb: Yeah, so I, I had a

classic sort of like burnout story at

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the end of that chapter of working at, in

academia and all of the stuff around tech

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and, um, I actually retrained as a crystal

healing th- therapist, which was such a

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strange choice after I'd done all of that.

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Um, it's a lot of alchemy to do around,

you know … I actually went into ghost

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mode for like two-ish years, partly

because of the burnout and partly because

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I just, I was doing something so different

I didn't, I couldn't really reconcile

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my identity with my existing kind of

community, so I just hid for a while.

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Um, but that crystal healing training, it,

it took, took me about a year and a half

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and it was such a deep dive into my own

soul, into my own healing journey, into

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my own capabilities because everything

that I'd learned myself to be good at was

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logical, academic, structured, strategic-

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And I found myself channeling

energy through crystals.

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I mean, I have them all

around me all the time.

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Channeling energy and, and people were

having these experiences with it, and

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there was something in me that just felt

like I had come home really, I mean,

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really come home and that I was having

a totally different level of impact,

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very intimate one-to-one, um, profound

in a completely different way, and it

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really changed- Actually pretty much

everything about who I saw myself to be,

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how I saw the world, what I understood

health to be, what I understood people

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to be, what I understood God, spirit,

source, divine consciousness to be.

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Um, and ever since then I've been

finding my way towards helping other

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people to kind of come into a deeper

contact with that side of themselves, to

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understand themselves as this spiritual

being having a human experience, and

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moving through their life's purpose

and their work, you know, according to

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that paradigm, which is so liberating.

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Erica Voell: So tell us

about your work today.

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Yes.

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I know you're

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Charlotte Webb: working

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Erica Voell: with leaders and-

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Charlotte Webb: Yeah

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… Erica Voell: human design.

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So tell us

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Charlotte Webb: about that.

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Yes.

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So I, I am now, um, uh, uh,

uh, my latest thinking on this,

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Erica, is spiritual concierge.

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I love this term.

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Mm.

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Spiritual concierge.

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So yeah, I'm working with people who

typically are creating their own legacy

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work, creating their own business.

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They are spiritually oriented,

but they want to get themselves

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out there in a more aligned way.

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They want to express

themselves more fully.

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They really want their marketing, their

messaging to be landing more clearly.

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They want to be attracting more online

clients, or they want to bring that

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spiritual dimension into an existing

role or into their life in a way

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that they haven't really been able

to kind of grasp onto at the moment.

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So I'm on that journey with people.

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I'm just opening up the doors to a

new program, which is really focused

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on, you know, grounding your legacy

work and your own human design.

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So how you get in touch with your highest

potential blueprint, and when you come

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into alignment with that, you, you're able

to leave this legacy and this trace in the

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present moment as well as for the future.

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So it's a real blessing.

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It's a pleasure.

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I'm absolutely pinching myself

all the time that I get to be

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in this life doing this work.

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And, um, yeah, I'm so in love with it.

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So I imagine for a lot of people on the

outside that, like, changing to energy

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work and crystal healing and human design,

like, looked like a real left turn.

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So what was the transition for

you like, and then what has stayed

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the same underneath all of it?

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Are there still things that you're still

doing and people you're reaching out to?

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Yeah.

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It's such a lovely question and, and

it was really, it was definitely a

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journey of slowly, slowly figuring

out, okay, where and how do I feel-

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safe enough to start expressing

this new dimension of myself.

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And I remember, you know, trying

quite hard to kind of compartmentalize

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things and, you know, setting up

lots of new different accounts and

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things, and knowing that I wasn't

gonna talk about it in certain places.

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And so I kind of kept myself,

um, bounded in some ways.

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But the thing that was really surprising

was that the more I just owned it, and

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the more that I let it come through me as

a frequency, the more people just would

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respond to me differently before I even

said anything about what I was doing.

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You know, when people start to, um,

comment that you seem different or you

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look different or what are you doing now

or whatever, that, that, and even, you

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know, with my family, like bringing them

on a journey which was very unexpected

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for them, happened because of just

embodying what I see as the higher

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truth of engaging in that kind of work.

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So it was a combination of, like,

being a bit strategic, building up

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courage, but then living it and letting

it sort of speak for itself as well.

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Erica Voell: Mm-hmm.

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Yeah.

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I have s- very similar

story, like, there…

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But there's a part of me that

wanted to hide that part of me.

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Charlotte Webb: Yeah.

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Erica Voell: You know,

it didn't feel safe.

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I came from the library world, and,

like, some, some of us are very…

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There was a lot of people who were

into astrology, but there was also

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this, like, very that's weird s- sense.

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Mm-hmm.

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And so I was like, "Do I tell people?"

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And I remember walking into a meeting

one time, and I, they were like,

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"I don't know what's going on."

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I was like, "Well, let me tell

you about all the planets that

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are in retrograde right now."

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And they were just like- "Okay."

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So, um, so did you feel like you had to

have this sort of, I don't want to say a

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reckoning, but this shift happen in you?

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Like, what was this e- embracing

who you were like and moving out

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of tech into this new Charlotte?

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Charlotte Webb: Well, it was amazing.

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It was just so amazing.

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I think I've always had a kind of,

um, rebellious spirit, you know?

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And it's expressed itself into all

different ways throughout my life since

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I was a kid, whether it was art or,

you know, feminist internet or now,

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you know, moving into all this work

with the human design and the gene

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keys and crystal healing and stuff.

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And, um-

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Even though it was scary and I did keep

myself in that ghost mode, there was also

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just a part of me that was like, "I've got

to just be brave at some point and let go

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of the fear of other people's opinions."

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Mm-hmm.

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Because at the end of the day, the work

itself is more important than that.

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And am I, you know, f- feeling the fear?

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It's like, well, okay, but am I

gonna really let that stop me?

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And it was so interesting because,

you know, when I started, it almost

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started to become like a little

game of like, where can I drop this?

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Like, where can I drop

it and see what happens?

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And with less attachment to the

outcome, um, less fear of rejection,

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for example, you know, it got

easier and easier over time.

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And, um,

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I'm still working on, you know,

the public-facing side of that.

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Like, even right now, like literally

working on, okay, what is the

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rebirth of LinkedIn, for example,

where I haven't really even kind of

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come out as this spiritual person.

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Um, but I'm really excited to do

that now, and I, I really have let

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go of what it might mean if I, if

I experience judgment, because just

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means that those people aren't,

aren't on the path, and that's okay.

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Everybody's on their own, um, trajectory,

and I, I really believe that the ones that

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are meant to come with you, come with you.

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Erica Voell: Mm-hmm.

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Oh, yeah.

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So totally.

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I, oh, I totally feel that.

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So recently, I know you did a

workshop on helping people find

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their voice, and I love that.

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You actual- that workshop actually

inspired the article that you were

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part of, um, about women, midlife women

and finding their voice, and their

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experiences of trusting their voice.

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So, um, w- where does this

come from for you personally?

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Charlotte Webb: Yeah.

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I mean, oh, gosh, Erica, it's so

interesting because I've been, uh,

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really diving deep into the Gene

Keys and, um, on this, um, Sage's

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Retreat right now with Richard Rudd,

and, um, we're in the purpose sphere.

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And what I've realized was that my purpose

gene key has the fifth line, and in the

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context of the purpose, the fifth line

ha- carries the frequency and voice line.

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Like, that's actually the quality of

my purpose, which I did not know until

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about three weeks ago, maybe less.

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So five years ago, the first

transformational coach I ever had, I kept

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saying to her, "I, I really don't know

what this means, but I, I think there's

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something about my voice that I'm supposed

to do in my life, and it's somehow

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part of my vocation or where I'm going.

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But I really don't know."

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And started experimenting with k-

you know, guided meditations and

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created a YouTube channel, and a lot

of the reactions I had on YouTube

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were all to do with my voice.

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And, um,

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so when I came to realize that

literally built into my genetic makeup

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is the purpose gets expressed through

frequency and voice, I would…

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I just felt a moment, again, of like

coming home to some true reality.

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So, so it's built into who I am and what

I'm here to do, but also I've always

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known that creative expression is such

a core part of, for me, what it means

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to be alive, what it means to experience

the full range of life, whether that

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be through, you know, visual art, or

whether it be through song, or whether

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it be through just making an object, or

whether it's through writing or whatever.

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So I really feel that my own journey

has been one of how to express myself

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and how to, um, feel that my actual

stability comes through expression

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and voice and sharing, not, not, not

words only, but frequency, 'cause

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voice is so completely entangled,

isn't it, with energy and frequency?

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It's basically the sound of your energy.

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So I feel for me voice is just

an absolutely magical instrument

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of consciousness that we can

use in such powerful ways that

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carries a lot of responsibility

but also a lot of liberation and

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opportunity to impact humanity.

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So that's where it's ki- I think,

you know, philosophically, like

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that's where it's coming from for me.

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Erica Voell: Oh my gosh, I just

got chills when you were talking

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about- Me too … the fifth line.

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Because my profile is a 5/1

and I'm like, "Wait, what?"

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Like, I didn't know that about it.

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And I have a ve- I've had a very

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tumultuous relationship with my voice.

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Yeah.

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And it's been, I have to say, Julie,

who is our mentor, like she has helped

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me feel more confident in my voice and

like learning that I had an undefined

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throat center, and I have one gate in

there, and it's all about sharing new

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experiences and sharing my experience.

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And her podcast…

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Or no, she did a, a class on

voice, and I learned that and I was

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like, "Oh, I can share my voice."

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And so that's what prompted

me to start my podcast.

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And I thought, "I actually

have something to share.

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I'm not just somebody who's

trying to find people."

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So, oh, wow, Charlotte, that's-

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Charlotte Webb: I love

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Erica Voell: it … just amazing.

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Charlotte Webb: Yeah.

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And how did that, how did that

realization shift your work?

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I mean, you actually started the podcast,

and- Mm-hmm … what else, like…

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'Cause I love to hear when

someone's throat opens.

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It's like everything changes.

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Erica Voell: So as a teenager, I was

always, like, I wanted to express

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myself through my clothes and my

hair and the music I listened to.

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Um, I was into, like, The Cure

and Depeche Mode and, like, those

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bands in the late '80s, early '90s.

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Um, and all the alternative music.

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And then, like, I just…

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But I didn't feel like I

could really be myself.

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Um, I always felt talked over as a

kid, and even as an adult I always

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felt like I've been talked over.

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And so learning about my undefined throat

was really powerful, that I could…

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Like, there's a reason that I don't speak

the exact same way to certain people, and

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also, like, why I don't always feel like

I have the right words at the right time,

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and that I, I used to talk just to talk.

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Um, and my mom, I remember being

on a trip with my mom, and she's

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like, "Do you ever stop talking?"

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Mm.

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And I was like, "I needed

to fill the space."

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Mm.

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And learning that I had an undefined

throat center was, that was the shadow

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side, is, like, talking to fill the space.

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And so now I've stepped back, but

I've noticed by, since I started

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the podcast, the inspiration comes.

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Like, I will be listening to somebody

else's podcast, and then I'll just

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be, like, recording on voice memos

in the car because something, the

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inspiration downloads and it's like,

this needs to be out in the world.

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Mm.

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And I need to share my

experience, because if I have this

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experience, I know I am not alone.

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And I have had such an

amazing response on Substack.

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People are like, "Thank

you for telling your story.

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Oh, I, I feel that so much,"

or, "I've had this experience."

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And I'm like, "Oh, I'm

connecting with people."

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So that's…

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It's been a really amazing

experience, and it's…

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Learning to trust my voice and that

I have something important to say

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was, like, the biggest shift for me

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Charlotte Webb: It's massive, isn't it?

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And I love what human design shows

you about, gives you permission

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to do so much and say so much.

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Like, for me, mine's defined.

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My throat center is defined.

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I have, like, multiple activations

in there, and I was like, "Oh, this

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is why I have lots of different

ways of expressing myself."

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Like, I can have a very kind

of spontaneous, natural way of

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speaking, or sometimes there is a

more of a storytelling component,

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or sometimes it's more logical.

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And even though I'm defined to have

a more kind of, like, consistent way

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of speaking, because of all these

different archetypal voices in the

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throat, it made sense of so much about

why I need, uh, different modalities

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and different ways to express my voice

in different spaces and for different

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reasons and for different purposes.

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And, you know, it's almost like different

voices for different tool, different

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tools for different jobs, you know?

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So it's, I think it's always very

validating to look at what's in

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your chart, making sense of the

past, but also then unlocking

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potential for the future as well.

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Erica Voell: Yeah, definitely.

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So when you c- help conne- someone

connect with their voice, what

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does that look like in practice?

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Charlotte Webb: Yeah, so the, the

master class that we just did was really

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focusing on, okay, what are those 11

archetypal voices in the throat center?

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Which ones do you have?

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Which ones are…

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You know, is your throat center

defined or undefined, as you've

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just been saying, and what are the

line qualities that come with the

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activations that you do and don't have?

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And just even that part, giving people so

much recognition and so much insight into

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the way that they're actually designed

to speak, which also then means how

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they're designed to attract prosperity.

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… Charlotte Webb: I love looking at

the relationship between the voice

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and prosperity, because they're

so interconnected, and it's this

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idea that when you are in a kind

of coherent voice mode, that it's

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literally like you come into focus.

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think of yourself, you know, think

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of a blurred image of you, and then

think of that image becoming very

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sharp, and that's the difference.

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Like, when you're out of alignment, when

your throat center's off, you're blurred.

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And then when it's really aligned, you

come into focus, and then people can see

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you, and they can, like, read your aura.

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And so that's a, you know,

that's something really, really

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powerful to explore energetically.

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And then also, we looked at a lot

of things like- For me, there's

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this kind of idea that your voice

actually starts with, um, receiving.

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Um, you know, that it's, it's

a receiving center as well as a

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manifestation center in your, in your,

in your chart, in your body graph.

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And so actually, the foundations of

this work is, like, s- about silence

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and listening and becoming receptive,

because when you're more receptive, when

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you're in that listening state, when

you're not constantly feeding, you know,

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yourself with information, then you start

to be able to hear yourself internally.

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You can actually hear your own voice

clearing up the signal, getting more

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of that intuitive hit, you know?

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Creativity massively unlocking

when you just take that time

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and space to hear yourself.

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Erica Voell: Mm-hmm.

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Charlotte Webb: Even, like, hearing

the own- your own, um, internal

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body systems, like listening

to your own cells, you know?

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It's at that level, I think, where

we can go to start receiving.

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And then as we, like, clear out that

channel, get more signal in, then we

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can start the process of speaking,

and then that speaking turns into

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manifestation where reality starts

to organize around the clear signal.

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It's like I said, um, your

voice becomes like a bat signal.

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Erica Voell: Mm-hmm.

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Charlotte Webb: You know, to your

people, when it becomes coherent.

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I just, I, I just…

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And I, that was one of the first things

I noticed about you, was your voice.

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Like, I was listening to a coaching

call while I was doing something

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else, and I didn't have the…

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I didn't a- I was, I think I was eating

breakfast, but I, I didn't have the…

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I wasn't looking at the screen,

and I remember hearing your voice

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and I was like, "Who is that?"

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"Who is that?"

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And then I heard you talking

about prosperity, and I was like,

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"Your voice and prosperity."

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I just, it didn't…

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I love the way you're talking about

it, because I couldn't quite put

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the two together, but it makes-

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Mm … so

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Charlotte Webb: much

sense to hear you talk

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Erica Voell: about it.

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It's magical.

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So I know you work with, um, a lot

of women, and I, I love this- I'm not

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sure if you're still doing a lot of

Leadership Women, um, but I know that

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there's this side of us, you talked

about that, that ghosted side, but

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there's this side of us that's we have

the crystals on the nightstand, we have

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the oracle cards, you know, we might

do a meditation practice, and it all

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happens behind closed doors- Mm-hmm

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'cause it doesn't feel safe to be,

you know, in the professional world.

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Is that what you're seeing with

women that you work with, and what

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does it cost them to feel like they

have to be two separate things?

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Charlotte Webb: I love this question so

much, and yes, I see it all the time.

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And in fact, the, the whole idea

of this archetype of the CEO with

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a singing bowl came from observing

this split, like a feeling that by

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day you're, you know, a professional-

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a pr- a professional leader in that kind

of context, but by night you're at the

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shamanic drumming session or, you know,

you're a medicine woman, you're doing

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your reiki, you're working with crystals,

whatever it is you're doing, and that

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compartmentalization being so exhausting.

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And actually so many people wanting

to let their gifts bubble up and be

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expressed more fully into the world.

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And so how can we start to, to integrate?

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And, and it's so interesting 'cause

I think often it can feel like,

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and I think this is what I did, was

like, "Okay, I just literally have

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to completely separate these things

because they're so disconnected."

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But what I found as I've, as I've

been moving along this path for

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a f- good few years now, is that

actually in the end, that there is a

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golden thread that runs through it.

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There are commonalities that are to do

with the deeper trajectory that your

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soul has come here to experience, and

that's, like, a lot of the time we don't

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actually have to throw everything away.

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I mean, maybe in some cases you do want to

do that, but I think that weaving together

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your, your more, I don't know how you want

to call it, like, your more strategic side

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with your spiritual side isn't impossible.

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And actually, the more that we can start

dissolving the binary thinking around it

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is the easier it becomes to, um, you know,

talk about them in interconnected ways.

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Obviously, there's gonna be some

communities and some environments

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where it's just not appropriate,

and people aren't ready, and

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you know that, and that's fine.

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But don't you think more and more we

are aligning with people who are so

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much more open, so much more willing?

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I think, to be honest, I think we

do ourselves a bit of a disservice

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by staying in the thinking that

these things are very separate.

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Mm-hmm.

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Oh, yeah.

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And like, oh, it's, it's, you know,

it's not safe to sit here, it's not…

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Because, uh, it, you know, there

are more than enough people that

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are open and ready, and we…

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The time is now.

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Like, 'cause in a few years' time, this

is just gonna be, like, bog standard.

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Yeah, everyone's doing it.

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I mean, what, uh, what?

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You don't, you do human design.

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I mean, you know.

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So I think, um, the more we can be with

each other and the more we can find those

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kindred spirits and the more we can ride

this collective wave of the new era is

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the more we're gonna fi- feel stable

and safe to, to start bringing this in.

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I mean, people in…

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You know, if you think about even

the tech industry, like, I always

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remember reading about, like, you know,

people like Steve Jobs having these,

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like, shamanic advisors and stuff.

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Like, that is, like, is it,

is it really so separate?

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Don't people at the highest

levels really want to actually

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connect with all forms of wisdom?

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Are they really so closed?

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So I find that quite intriguing, actually.

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Erica Voell: Mm-hmm.

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Yeah, I do too, because I f- and I

would love to, like, walk into a, you

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know, see pictures of a boardroom with,

like, this giant crystal in the middle.

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Like, that would just be amazing.

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But, um, and I think that, you know,

that there is some of that, that…

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I think that, that even for,

say, Steve Jobs, he probably had-

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There was the, he was keeping it separate

too, and it, I, I really hope, I really

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look forward to the day, I shouldn't say

I hope, 'cause I know it's gonna happen.

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I look forward to the day when

it's, like, no longer separate.

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We're more, uh, as we move into the

new era that we, you know, have been so

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immersed in with Julie that, like, there

is going to be a sense of, you know, we…

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Maybe they don't meditate at the beginning

of a session, of a meeting, but the, that

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is more accepted, but it's also just part

of who the existence of the company, um,

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and that it's not this masculine bro side

and this, like, oh, woo, feminine side.

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Like, that there's- Yeah … a

more beautiful marriage of it.

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And, um, you know, I have, uh,

Heather Wick, who was on my podcast-

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Charlotte Webb: Yeah

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Erica Voell: a couple months ago, um,

did t- d- does energy work on businesses,

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and I'm sure that, like, if they, the

businesses that bring that energy in and

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bring those crystals in and bring the,

the, the energy into it, not just the

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energy work that she does, but, like,

bring the energy of the feminine and

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the masculine in, I am sure that it,

it changes, it completely shifts the

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businesses, and it shifts the leadership.

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So how do you help someone start

to close that gap, not necessarily

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bringing, like, that giant crystal

into the boardroom, but finding a way

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to help them be who they actually are

and lead and show up, and then also not

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feel like they have to hide themselves?

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Charlotte Webb: Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Well, I have found that, you know,

studying your design, um, helping

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people get into that inquiry is

very, very powerful in and of itself.

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Just, just by dent of it, aligning

somebody with this different way of

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seeing themselves and seeing their

potential and seeing that there

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is a gift in every shadow, right?

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Like, that is such an incredible

paradigm for a person to live

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inside of, and I find that when we-

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When we start to explore some of the

things that might have been holding

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somebody back from fully expressing

themselves through their human design,

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it's almost, it's almost like just by

looking at it, it starts to dissolve.

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And just by feeling what it means to be

aligned with your purpose, not, not as a,

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a thing that you do, but as a way that you

are Then there's some kind of relaxing at

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the deepest cellular level, where you can

start to, um, do more of that embodiment

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that we talked about at the beginning.

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You know, when we, we both, like, had

that experience of, well, if I just live

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this, there's some kind of cosmic osmosis

thing that happens, and people start,

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you know, relating to me differently.

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Um, and I, I notice that with my

clients, that it only takes quite a, a,

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a light exploration of a bit of human

design for the way that they start

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experiencing other people and other

people start experiencing them to change.

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Erica Voell: Yeah.

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I, I mean, I, I talk about, like,

people ask me if I got a new haircut,

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like, if I got my hair cut, and I'm

like "No," but they just could see it.

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They could just- Yeah … feel

that, that shift.

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So how do you introduce

human design to people?

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Charlotte Webb: Yeah.

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Yeah, so we, um, we, we bring it in

as a lens really for the, for the

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coaching, and so I run their chart.

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And we, uh, we really use, mm,

I would s- I, I call myself,

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like, a radical re-framer.

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I just keep going with using, using

the chart as this very intuitive

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kind of portal into self-reflection.

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So, you know, we, we know that it's

gonna be, like, the axis of our

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journey together if we're one-to-one,

if it's a group or whatever.

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And it's there as this map, and each

session, we know that there's gonna be

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some thread that we get to pull out of

the, out of the body graph or out of

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a gene key or out of some energetic,

um, you know, knot that's there.

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And it can be quite

serendipitous, I think.

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You know, like, maybe we're tuning

into the, um, the global, you know,

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the global pulse of the energy, or

maybe it's an issue that's come up, and

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we're like, "Okay, well," like, it's

almost like you, you know, the ch- the

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chart is like a Google search space.

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You know what I mean?

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Like, oh, well, let's see what's going on.

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What can we find in the chart that can

reveal some deeper truth about this thing?

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And inevitably, the synchronicities

happen, and the realizations come, and

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it's just an incredibly potent tool I

have found to, um, unlock potential and-

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Just to be honest, bring,

bring yourself fully alive.

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Do you know what I mean?

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Mm-hmm.

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To just actually activate your cells.

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And feel like, wow.

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I mean, when I first…

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It's like with the crystal healing,

when I first went into that space, my

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teacher Kelly Peacey, incredible woman.

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Uh, I'd spent I don't know how many

years in academia, like 15 years in

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academia learning, and I liked art.

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You know what I mean?

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I chose, I elected to do that

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But when I was in her presence learning

about the chakras, and auras, and

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crystals and stuff, I was so riveted.

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I felt like I, I felt like I

was reading for the first time.

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I felt like I was learning

for the first time.

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I was, like, 38 or 40 or something,

and I was like, "Oh, oh, right.

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So that's what it means to actually

really, really genuinely, like,

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have thirst for learning for real."

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Erica Voell: Yes.

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Oh, oh, yes.

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I, I know that feeling so well.

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Like, when I was learning human design

for the f- first time fir- from my

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first teacher, Erin Claire Jones,

and I was just like, "Oh, my gosh."

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Yeah.

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Like, how do we all not know about this?

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Like- Yeah … it was like

reading or just listening to…

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I was listening to her, and I was like,

"This is, like, the code to humanity.

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How do we not know about this?

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How have people not been

telling us about this?

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Like, why, why do I feel like I have

the secret to life in my hands?"

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And also, like, when I was reading

about mine is, how has this system

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been reading my personal life journal

and it doesn't even know about me?

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Like, how is it telling

me my own life story-

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Charlotte Webb: Yeah

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Erica Voell: and all of the, the struggles

I have had through my entire life?

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How does this system know this?

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And, like- Amazing … the first time

I started to sit with people, like,

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there's this look, and I'm sure you

know this look, where they're like-

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How do you know that about me?

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Like, I will remem- I'll never

forget my friend when I did a, a

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reading with her, and she said,

"Erica, I'm very uncomfortable

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with how much you know about me."

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And I was like, "I am just telling

you what I am seeing in the chart."

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Charlotte Webb: Mm-hmm.

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Erica Voell: And I still…

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I- do you have this experience where

you're working with a client and you

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have their chart pulled up, and they're

telling you something, and you're like,

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"I know exactly why that's happening.

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Like, I, like, I can see it."

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And but you can't say, "I know this.

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I can see this in your chart."

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And, you know, you have to sort of

pull back a little bit and be like, "I

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will share this when they are ready."

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And I will also tell them, you know,

after the fact that like, that I can

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see this coming up in your chart.

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I can see this- Yeah … and then

how is this playing out for you.

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Like, but it's still…

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Yeah, when you were…

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I, I felt that so deeply when

I was learning, and I'm very

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intrigued by, like, more things.

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The deeper I get into human

design and, like, the gene

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keys, the more I'm like, how…

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I feel like we are- we should be

sharing this with everybody, but I don't

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feel like everybody is ready for it.

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Charlotte Webb: I agree.

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I feel like it's, it- it's sheer pleasure.

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It's just actually pleasure and magic and

fun, and, and that's the thing about…

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I felt like my life went from a

kind of fuzzy, muted palette into,

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like, full spectrum vivid HD-

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Spiritual awakening to me was literally

like colors becoming brighter in, in life

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and, and seeing, like, things actually…

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To, to be an adult and to believe in

magic, like, that is what it feels like.

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And to start to come into a way of living

that embraces a lot of synchronicity.

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I mean, you know, I remember one sort

of phase in, in my, in my crystal

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healing training, and we were really

looking at, like, angel frequencies

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and, and I was really obsessed

with noticing synchronicities,

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and I felt like, you know, the

white feather was my little sign.

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For some reason that was, you know,

reticular activation system had kicked

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in, latched onto feathers, right?

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And, um-

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They just literally would,

like, appear physically around

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me, you know, inside my house.

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Or one was just sitting on a book that had

been posted through the door, or one time

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I was meditating and, um, i- in, in a, in

a yoga retreat, and I was on the yoga mat

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and I was meditating, and I opened my eyes

and there's this feather in front of me.

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And it was, you know…

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I just, I feel like what an, what

an amazing experience to have in

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life where you get to have magic

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Erica Voell: Yeah.

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It's, it, I, I, I feel like as I've

started to embrace this magical side of

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me, like there is so much opening up.

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And-

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Charlotte Webb: Yeah

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… Erica Voell: when I say I need a sign,

like the one day that I was just like,

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"I'm really struggling, and I need a

sign," a blue heron flew over again.

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The blue heron is my spirit

animal, and it just…

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I was driving, and it just flew

over, and I, I was with my husband.

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I was like, "There's my sign."

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Charlotte Webb: Yeah.

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Erica Voell: "That's my sign."

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Yeah.

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He, he knows it.

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He knows that the blue heron is what

comes, what comes when I need it most.

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Mm-hmm.

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Um, and my business has the energy of

a moose, and so like the moose will

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suddenly appear at certain places.

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And I'm like, "Oh, that's so interesting."

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Like, I was watching TV, and there

was a moose on the TV, and I was

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like, "Okay, keep going, Erica."

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Yeah.

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"Keep going."

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Charlotte Webb: Yeah.

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And I mean, to have a direct

line to source like that-

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Yeah … it's gold, isn't it?

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And like talk about bringing spirit

and strategy together, 'cause w-

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we're in this path of creating

businesses, and it's really not easy.

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Y- you know, you really have to have a lot

of grit to stay, but I don't know about

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you, but those moments of synchronicity

or those moments of feeling connected

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or that you are guided, that you are

supported, that you are somehow part of

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an interconnected web of consciousness

that is actually for you, is very

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supportive in those moments where

it's like, "God, the email sequence."

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Erica Voell: Yes.

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Yes.

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And but it…

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But do you feel when you, like with

the feather, isn't there just like this

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calm that comes over you like, "Oh, yes.

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Charlotte Webb: Okay."

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Yeah.

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Erica Voell: "Thank you for

the reminder, universe."

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Charlotte Webb: Yeah.

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And, and also, I think especially

with the Gene Keys work at the moment,

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which is focusing on purpose as so

not about what you do, but, but being-

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Erica Voell: Mm-hmm

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Charlotte Webb: Um, it's just a radical

way of putting things into perspective.

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So even though, um, my focus is on having

a, as, as big of an impact as I can, I'm

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a 3/5, so, you know, I, my body wants to

make a big impact in the world, right?

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Really wanna make an impact,

desperately wanna make a…

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But I'm learning, oh, I just get to

have this, like, trace of glitter that

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follows me around, and nobody might

ever know what I did, but somehow

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God knew, and the, like, the glitter

trail was there, and, like, maybe

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it fell on a flower in a field once.

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Mm.

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And that, so kind of liberating myself

from the idea of what legacy is,

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what impact is, what productivity is,

and kind of coming into a different

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level of communion with that.

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I f- I, again, I feel like it's

not always easy to let go of

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wanting to be very productive and,

you know, do all of that stuff.

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But, but somehow it's connected

to a deeper truth, and that

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relaxes the spirit- Mm-hmm

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and the soul into what you're doing.

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That's what I've found for myself.

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Erica Voell: Mm-hmm.

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And so y- in your work, you've

talked about legacy and the,

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the rewriting the power and the

prosperity and the, the legacy work.

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So what does it mean, um, for you when

you say it to a client, this legacy,

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the rewiring, the prosperity, and th-

bringing all of this in, the, the magic

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and the gene keys and the purpose in?

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What does it mean to you

when you say it to a client?

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Charlotte Webb: Yeah, so to me it

means, if I think about it visually,

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it's almost like s- just sitting

back into an armchair instead of

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kind of leaning forward into life.

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So when we can hold the idea

of legacy as- This kind of

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present moment energetic trace-

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Erica Voell: Mm-hmm

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… Charlotte Webb: and the idea of legacy

as things that you produce and, like,

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maybe leave, you know, gift to the

world, I feel like having that kind of

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dual perspective on time really helps

us see, like, legacy is, it's now.

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It's right now in our

frequency and our aura.

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We're leaving something b- now.

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And then, and then also, you know,

you might think more conventionally,

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conventionally about legacy work as, like,

your book or your business or your, you

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know, masterpiece or whatever, but I love

to hold both those ways of seeing legacy

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for somebody so that they can relax into

what they're making and understand that,

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like, maybe the deepest purpose of all is

to inhabit our highest frequency and let

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that be a kind of ever-present legacy.

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Erica Voell: Mm-hmm.

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Yeah.

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Oh, I…

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And I, and I d- I, I always think

about, like, you don't know what

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impact you are having on other people.

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I had a client panel on my last

master class, and I had no idea-

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Yeah … what impact I had had.

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And just hearing them, like, when I'm

having a bad day I'll go listen to it.

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Charlotte Webb: Yeah.

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Erica Voell: But even the smallest

things, like there was a woman who t-

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said to me one time, she said, "Oh, I…

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You did this for me," and I didn't-

Mm-hmm … it seemed so small and

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so mundane to me at the time, when I

was at the library, and I was like,

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"Oh, I am leaving a legacy here."

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It's not about doing all the hard

work and, like, making sure that

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you're, making c- sure that your

name is written in stone on the, you

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know, on the tablets on the walls or-

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Charlotte Webb: Totally

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Erica Voell: but a, a lot of

times it's the very smallest act-

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Charlotte Webb: Yeah

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… Erica Voell: that changes

so much for somebody.

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And-

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Charlotte Webb: Yeah

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… Erica Voell: something as simple as,

like, my friend told me when I was

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interviewing, she said, "Erica, you don't

need to be anybody else, but just be you."

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Charlotte Webb: Mm-hmm.

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Erica Voell: "And that's

what's gonna get you hired."

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And, like, that small comment, I've told

her that multiple times and she's like, "I

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don't even remember saying that to you."

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But that small- Yeah … imp- comment

from her made such a huge impact on me.

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And I think for so many of us, especially

in the coaching world, like, we want

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to leave that impact, but I don't think

we realize that even on, you know, a

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sales call, that that one hour might

have made an impact on somebody in

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a way that we didn't even realize.

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Charlotte Webb: Totally.

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That's so true.

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It's really beautiful as well

because it kind of goes back to that

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thing of the, the interconnected

web, doesn't it, in that-

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We, we, we don't always have to have

it nailed or planned or scripted

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or, you know, packaged as some kind

of teaching or something for, for

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it to be valuable, and we get to

really trust in our own expression.

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Like, again, to come back to the

voice, just, like, letting wisdom

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bubble through you just sort of in a

sort of silent, secret, invisible way.

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Erica Voell: Mm-hmm.

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Charlotte Webb: Um, can be, yeah, like you

say, way more powerful than you realize.

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Erica Voell: Mm-hmm.

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So I have a question for you

that's going back to the voice.

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Um, do you do voice…

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Like, is there- are there things that

you do with the voice with your clients?

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Um, I know you did an activation.

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Like, are there things that

you do- Mm … related to the

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voice that aren't necessarily…

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I guess what I wanna ask is, like, how

are you marrying it with human design?

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So are there certain activations

that are in their chart that you also

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do with them on their voice, maybe-

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Charlotte Webb: Yeah

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Erica Voell: the humming

or something like that?

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Charlotte Webb: Yeah.

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And again, like, this is another thing

that really made me giggle when I, um,

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when I read about the, the, the fifth line

in my purpose, uh, because it was like,

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yes, uh, you feel most stable when you do

chanting or, like, recite man- mantras.

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And I was like, "Oh, yeah, no,

that's actually definitely true."

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Because I really feel like f- s- for

me, really, apa- apart from sort of

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like physically moving, the thing

that I find the most stabilizing

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and the most kind of clearing for

the energy field is, um, s- sound.

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So, um, I absolutely love to chant om.

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I learned, I'm not very good at it

yet, but I learned how to do overtone

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singing, which is where you kind of

sing two notes at once, and I, I use

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it to cleanse my crystals, and that

was very transformative because it's-

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In a very tangible, physical

way made me understand, um,

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frequency inside my own body.

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Because, because you can't…

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It's like a second note happens,

but you don't control the second

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note, and it creates this harmonic.

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And so, so that, even though I'm

not very good at it yet, I can

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catch the overtone, and it drops me

right into connection with source.

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And I, and I- I've always…

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My favorite method for clearing

crystals has always been sound.

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Um, so, so I like to do that for myself.

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I really love to tone the chakras.

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I do that with my clients.

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Um, and I just…

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I, I actually like to, yeah,

feel or help people feel that

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physical vibration and the tone.

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It's like a really deep, earthly way

to, to experience yourself as physical.

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So yeah, I absolutely love doing that.

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Erica Voell: Oh my gosh.

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I, I love this.

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So what is something that you wish that…

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So you came from academia, you've,

into activism, and you, you're building

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this business, Spirit and Strategy,

but also Voice and Prosperity.

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So what is something that you

wish someone had told you about

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building your business that…

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Because it doesn't fit this,

like, very perfect mold.

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What is something that you

wish somebody had told you?

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Charlotte Webb: Hmm.

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I was listening to Julie today on The

Daily Frequency, um, and, you know,

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she was saying about the easy button.

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There's no easy button

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And I, I really like that because I

like, I like letting go of the idea that

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hard work is bad manifesting in a way.

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Um, and in a way there's nothing I

wish they'd, someone had told me,

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'cause I, I, I have this really strange

feeling, like when you're asking me

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that question I'm like, "Oh, nothing,"

because I feel like everything's been so

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on, um, on

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What's the right word?

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Like, it's just been perfect how it's been

even though there's been so many mistakes.

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I mean, I'm a 3/5 so I have

to try everything out a

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million times and everything

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The, the, if I was gonna do

something differently, I think

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it would be that when I…

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My first strategy in business was to

build an audience on YouTube, which

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was another, uh, you know, journey into

expression and visibility and voice.

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And that journey was, you know,

quite, um, transformative in itself.

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I, you know, had this experience of,

like, my channel going viral, like, very

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much overnight from, like, 300 to 8,000

or something, and it was quite a wild

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experience of just I did this, like,

particular kind of meditation, and it

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just had this huge explosive reaction,

and it was incredibly overwhelming.

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Um, and I wasn't really ready

for what would kind of come

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my way as a result of that.

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So I, I think if, if I was doing it

again, I think I would be, I would

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be a little bit more strategic with,

um, visibility for a purpose rather

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than just visibility for its own sake.

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Because I was so, uh, my, what I

was learning was, like, you need to

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become visible, you need to build

an audience, and so on and so forth.

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So I did that, but, um- There

wasn't really anywhere for that

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audience to go on, on Twitter.

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Um, and so it wasn't, um…

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It wasn't as kind of like

strategic as it could've been.

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But on the other hand, that was just

part of my journey, and I needed

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to make those 105 YouTube videos to

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find who I was, and express

myself, and learn to be okay on

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camera, and all of that stuff.

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And so I don't sort of regret it,

but I, I might not take that exact

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path again, if you know what I mean.

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Erica Voell: And, uh, for everyone,

I know Charlotte is a Projector.

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So are there things that have

come up for you with other…

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When you are working with other women,

um, or your clients, are there things

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that you're just like, "I really

wish that they could see this gap"?

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Or how do you balance being a

Projector and working with other,

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with the, with your clients?

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Charlotte Webb: Well, you know, it's

really funny, Erica, because I'm

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doing this new group program for the

first time, and, um, every single

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person is a Generator or a Manifesting

Generator, and I'm the Projector.

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And I was like, "Oh, it's so perfect."

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It's just so, it's just so on.

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Um, I don't know.

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I think it's, it's very interesting,

isn't it, with energy types and

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how they kind of interplay with the

rest of the charts and everything.

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And, um, I think the thing that I

recognize the most in myself about

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being a Projector is just that

kind of like concentrated output.

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Um, so like really being very

efficient and doing stuff, but for

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a short period of time, and then

there's nothing left in the tank.

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Erica Voell: Mm.

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Charlotte Webb: So kind of, um-

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You know, needing to negotiate that

in the way that I manage my time

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and my energy and stuff like that, I

think that's been really, really key.

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Erica Voell: Mm-hmm.

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Well, Charlotte, it's been

so wonderful to talk to you.

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I have one last question

that I ask everyone.

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Okay.

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So what is one unwritten rule of

midlife that you would like to rewrite?

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Charlotte Webb: The rule, unwritten

rule of midlife I would like to

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rewrite is that it's not the middle.

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It's not the middle.

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It's just the beginning.

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Like, what, what…

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Where does that concept of

mid, mid come from anyway?

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Like, I think you were

talking about bending time.

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Erica Voell: Mm-hmm.

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Charlotte Webb: And so I would like

to, I'd like to throw out the timeline

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that we've been handed and scramble it

and make, make our relationship to time

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different so we feel like every day, every

day has the potential to be the best day

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of your life, and it's the beginning, and

we're not, we're not, um, you know, we're

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not redundant because of some kind of

chronological progression of linear time.

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Yeah.

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We are quantum beings, and

we get to begin from now.

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Erica Voell: Yeah.

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Oh, I heard, not too long ago, I

heard a, an, uh, um, podcast episode

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about, like, the time is not linear.

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That it's, like, there, it's sort of a…

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It looks very much like a DNA, um, helix.

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Mm.

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And I was like, "Oh, that is so cool."

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Like, time is fast here, and time is

slow here, and that, like, it's weaving,

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and the you of past and present.

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It was, it was kind of mind-blowing

for me, and I was like, I kinda

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couldn't understand it, but

I also have experienced it.

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Like, how did a five-year-

Mm … goal happen in nine months?

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Like, I don't know, and people have been

asking me, and I was like, "I don't know.

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I don't know what I did."

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Amazing.

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I just showed up and, like,

empow- embodied things.

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So Charlotte, tell everyone where they,

they can find you, and what do you

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have going on that you wanna share?

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Charlotte Webb: I would love people

to come and join me on Substack.

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That is where I'm going all in from now.

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So all my writing, all my audios, uh,

membership, that's gonna be on Substack.

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So if you would like to follow me

there, that would be absolutely amazing.

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And I can't wait to, to keep building

in this space, which feels like such a,

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you know, again, like, massive shift,

doesn't it, to be in this environment

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with lots of kindred spirits in a way

that feels really, you know, different to

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the other platforms that we've been on.

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Erica Voell: Mm.

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Well, Charlotte, thank you for joining us.

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It was so great to speak to you.

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Thank

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Charlotte Webb: you so much.

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Erica Voell: And everyone,

We'll see you soon,

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- Charlotte Webb: Thank you.

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Erica Voell: If this episode resonated

with you, I would be so grateful

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if you would click the plus sign to

subscribe and share it with a friend.

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You can find more articles and

conversations on my Substack.

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The link is in the show notes.

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I'd love to see you there.

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Thanks for joining me today.

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Be well

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Unfolding: Audio Letters from the Middle of Becoming
What if midlife wasn't a crisis — but an invitation?

The Unfolding Podcast is a space where we explore what it looks like to really trust yourself, say no without guilt, and live your life like it actually belongs to you.

Hosted by Erica Voell, Decision Mentor and Inner-Trust Guide, this show is for women in midlife who are done living by the "shoulds" and second guessing themselves.

If you've taken every personality test, followed the recommended path, and still can't shake the feeling that you've been spending your whole life trying to fit in – when what you really wanted was to belong – you're in the right place.

You'll hear stories, insights, and tools rooted in Human Design, coaching, and real life. Not to tell you what to do, but to help you really hear yourself.

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I use tools like Human Design, coaching, and
Reiki to help women in midlife say no to what
drains them—because they trust their decisions
and understand their unique strengths.

Together, we clear old patterns, and they learn
how they’re designed to make confident decisions
and start putting themselves first.